Ep. 54: The Female Financial Revolution: Rethinking Wealth Management with Dr. Barbara Provost

How can the financial industry better serve women’s unique needs?

In this episode, Shannon Spotswood speaks about women and money with Dr. Barbara Provost, Ed.D., MS Ed, MBM, founder of Purse Strings.

Shannon and Dr. Provost explore the disconnect between financial services and women’s needs while emphasizing the importance of a personalized approach, citing research on the industry’s lack of empathy.

So, listen in as the conversation focuses on reshaping the financial industry to better support and understand female clients.

Main talking points include:

  • Reasons Dr. Provost is dedicated to serving and creating opportunities for women in the financial services industry
  • The disconnect in financial products and services suited for women
  • Why women need a more personalized and empathetic approach in financial and  estate planning
  • Dr. Provost’s experiences and interactions with women navigating financial decisions during significant life events
  • The financial industry’s lack of sympathy towards women and their unpreparedness for their financial future
  • The value of tearing down the traditional financial industry model and replacing it with a more inclusive and empathetic approach
  • Practical steps for advisors to engage with female clients, including enhancing listening skills and creating a safe and uninterrupted space for discussions
  • The impact of caregiving responsibilities on women’s mental and financial well-being
  • And more!


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About our Guest:

Dr. Barbara Provost created Purse Strings so all women could live a life free from financial stress and full of choices. As a consultant in the financial industry for over 20+ years, it was apparent that the needs of the female market were not being addressed. When she went through her divorce and navigated it in a women-led divorce group, she heard these intelligent, bright, talented women voice so many financial concerns. And in her everyday life, she could see women of retirement age working at the stores as she’d run her errands.

As a doctor in adult learning and higher education, Dr. Barbara Provost helped bring the power of the female market to other countries like Nigeria, India, Cameroon, and Vietnam.

Ep. 52: The Financial Advisory Succession Crisis with David DeVoe

It looks like the financial services industry is progressing towards a succession crisis. Are advisors ready to handle it?

This week, Shannon Spotswood interviews David DeVoe, the Founder and CEO of DeVoe & Company, about the current state of M&A activity and succession planning in the financial advisory space.

Together, they highlight the succession crisis in the field and the importance of succession planning. David also talks about the challenges and barriers to succession planning, the factors contributing to a firm’s success, and the impact of marketing on the industry.

David discusses:

  • M&A activity and succession planning in the financial advisory arena
  • The current state of M&A activity and its future outlook
  • The potential for a succession crisis in the industry and reasons why succession planning is so important
  • The challenges and barriers of succession planning
  • Ways psychological factors impact succession planning
  • Reasons we need radical change within firms to attract and retain next-generation advisors
  • What factors contribute to the success of a firm, including profitability and risk factors
  • Proactive strategies for driving higher valuations and protecting an organization’s future
  • And more


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About Our Guest:

David DeVoe founded DeVoe & Company in 2011 to help wealth management companies optimize their business decisions. The company has supported hundreds of firms in consulting, investment banking, and valuation engagements since its launch. David has been a thought leader on RIA practice management for 18 years and was named the ‘RIA M&A Guru’ by Barron’s magazine.

Previously, he served as Managing Director of Strategic Business Development at Charles Schwab Advisor Services. In this role, he developed and led Schwab’s Transition Planning platform, which provides comprehensive M&A and succession planning services to registered investment advisors. During these eight years, he provided strategic counsel to over 500 advisors. Previously, David worked in the Business Strategy group at American Express. David holds a BA degree from the University of California, Berkeley, and an MBA from Cornell University Johnson Graduate School of Management.

Ep. 51: Stepping Out of Your Comfort Zone and Inspiring Others with Nicole Middendorf

How can financial advisors take themselves and their practices a step further to unleash their growth potential?

In this episode, Shannon Spotswood hosts Nicole Middendorf, the CEO of Prosperwell Financial, to talk about the power of stepping out of your comfort zone and the value of authenticity in financial advising.

Nicole shares her personal journey, including her experience of going viral on LinkedIn and creating her ‘Live It List.’ Listen in as Nicole uncovers the importance of promoting women in the financial services industry and the need for advisors to be more inclusive and attentive to female clients.

Nicole discusses:

  • Her journey of creating and rebranding her ‘Live It List’
  • The value of stepping out of our comfort zone and embracing discomfort for personal growth
  • The scarcity versus abundance mindset and the power of gratitude
  • How marketing and building a LinkedIn following can benefit financial advisors
  • Why authenticity and personalization are crucial in financial advising
  • What advisors can do about the disconnect between women and the financial industry
  • And more!


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About Our Guest:

Nicole Middendorf is a Wealth Advisor, CEO of Prosperwell Financial, Author, Speaker, and Media Guest. Nicole is a knowledge junkie, mentor, and a born coach. She is an entrepreneur who has run her own business since 2003. Nicole is the author of five books and the mother of two phenomenal children. She is also a world traveler, a philanthropist, and an accomplished public speaker.

As a speaker, Nicole shares a real-life perspective on life and happiness with audiences across the country. Her primary goal is to inspire others to make real changes in their lives by taking complicated things, making them easy to understand, and giving actionable items to make change.

Nicole loves to work hard to empower individuals to make crucial, positive changes in their own lives. Nicole’s books have received local and national press coverage. She has become known for her thoughtful concise quotes, relaxed on-air presence, and articulate delivery during radio and television interviews.

The world needs more people—especially women—to be financially savvy, wholly independent, happy, and living a life of balance. Through Nicole’s writing, public speaking, coaching program, and work, she wants to be the one who supports them on all levels.

Ep. 50: Driving Trust, Growth, and Innovation in Wealth Management with Eric Clarke

In every walk with nature, one receives far more than he seeks. – John Muir

Could this saying be true with businesses as well, that oftentimes we receive a lot more than we seek?

Join Shannon Spotswood from RFG Advisory as she and Eric Clarke, the visionary Founder and CEO of Orion, discuss the rapidly evolving landscape of wealth management and the partnership between Orion Advisor Solutions and RFG Advisory. Listen in as the conversation contrasts traditional Wall Street methods with innovative financial strategies.

Throughout the discussion, Shannon and Eric explore:

  • How Eric’s leadership style evolved over the years
  • Three key takeaways for leaders who are looking to scale
  • The importance of being willing to disrupt the status quo and traditional ways of thinking in a technology business
  • What hurdles come with scaling a business
  • The concerns and benefits of bringing in a capital partner
  • Why KPIs are essential for businesses today
  • How real success is built on genuine relationships
  • Why every client interaction matters and where behavioral finance changes the game
  • And much more!


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About our guest:

Eric Clarke is the founding CEO of Orion Advisor Tech, launching the firm in 1999 to provide portfolio accounting software to help independent financial advisors scale their businesses. Eric retired as Orion’s CEO in 2023 and continues to serve as an active member of Orion’s Board of Directors.

As a visionary leader and prominent voice in the financial advice industry, Eric is at the forefront of advancing and transforming the RIA and wealthtech industries. Eric has received numerous industry awards including WealthManagement’s CEO of the Year for 2022, ThinkAdvisor’s IA25 multiple times, received a Luminaries award in 2022 and an InvestmentNews’ Icon & Innovators Award in 2019, and lead the Orion team to four Wealthies Awards in 2023.

In addition to serving on Orion’s board, since 2020 Eric has also served as a board trustee for the Foundation for Financial Planning, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization dedicated to expanding access to pro bono financial planning for people in crisis or need. Eric earned his Bachelor of Science in Accounting and Information Systems from Brigham Young University and Master of Business Administration from their rival at the University of Utah.

Ep. 49: Why Your Zoom Calls Matter with Liz Dykes

How do we maintain a personal touch in an increasingly digital age?

Elevate your understanding as Dr. Jordan Hutchison is joined by Liz Dykes, Chartered Investment Manager and Certified in Life and Success Coaching.  

Together, they plunge into the essence of understanding clients, challenging preconceived notions, and establishing strong rapport, especially in the financial advisory space.

In this conversation, you’ll discover:

  • Why face-to-face meetings, even online, matter
  • How to harness the power of meeting people where they’re emotionally at
  • Why behavioral finance is more relevant today than ever
  • What ‘success’ really means to you
  • How sharing personal stories and being vulnerable can build trust
  • And more!


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About our Guest:

Liz Dykes is a strategist and coach, pulling insights from her background in market research, financial services, and coaching. Known for her nuanced approach to helping people find clarity amid life’s complexities, Liz focuses on actionable wisdom for both personal and professional growth.

Why do people connect with Liz? It’s her ability to offer grounded advice that helps you bend, not break, in a world of constant change. Liz provides a different perspective—one that broadens your view and empowers you to make informed decisions. And in a world buzzing about artificial intelligence, Liz offers simple, effective ways it can free up time for the things and people that matter most to you.

If you’re looking to shift from being a passenger to becoming an active participant in your life’s journey, Liz is the guide you’ve been seeking.

Ep. 48: Endurance Entrepreneurs: The Thin Line Between Complacency & Burnout with Michael Futterman

Some advisors become too comfortable with their current situation and stop striving for more, usually due to a fear of disrupting what’s already working. Others are always in the “go, go, go” mindset, ultimately burning themselves out!

How can you strike a balance between complacency and burnout?

In this episode, Shannon Spotswood speaks with Michael Futterman, executive coach, motivational speaker, and EQ enthusiast. Together, they explore the path to “endurance entrepreneurship” where advisors can maintain a healthy and sustainable level of motivation, engagement, and productivity in their lives, personally and professionally.

Shannon discusses:

  • Healthy habits that advisors can adopt to thrive in the fast-paced financial industry
  • Every reason to shift from a scarcity to an abundance mindset
  • The need for self-care and recovery
  • How to embrace growth in the form of “Type Two Fun”
  • And more


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About Michael Futterman:

As a speaker and coach to business executives with over 20 years of experience working in the management consulting and financial services sectors, Michael Futterman’s focus has been on team effectiveness, client retention, business growth, brain health, maximizing performance, and positive work culture​. Michael helps his clients identify and overcome human capital and strategic challenges through providing practice management, executive leadership, personal wellness, and business development coaching and consulting.

Ep. 47: Unleashing Growth Potential: Shannon Spotswood’s Blueprint for Success

What achievements and victories can we learn from Shannon Spotswood? Today, Shannon takes a seat on the other side of the mic to share her experiences and insights with us.

In this episode, Shannon Spotswood, President of RFG Advisory, is interviewed by Dr. Jordan Hutchison on the Game Film, a brand extension for Disruption Blueprint. Reflecting on her journey, Shannon talks about her diverse background and fearless approach to risk. She also discusses the importance of self-confidence and mindset in the financial advisory industry, and emphasizes the changing landscape of the industry and the need for advisors to embrace coaching and deliver a unique service experience.

Shannon discusses:

  • Her walkout song
  • Her diverse career background and willingness to pivot
  • What motivates her and drives her career
  • Her leadership style and its influence on the organization’s culture
  • The importance of self-confidence and having a positive mindset in the financial advisory industry
  • The partnership between RFG Advisory and Long Ridge Equity Partners and their shared vision for the future
  • And more


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About Jordan Hutchison:

Dr. Jordan A. Hutchison is the Vice President of Technology at RFG Advisory. His executive leadership expertise in WealthTech, human behavior, and financial planning strategy provide him with the ability to help financial professionals live extraordinary lives. He uses his deep understanding of financial advisors, practice management, and the wealth management business cycle to apply the proper needs to run a successful financial planning firm.

About Shannon Spotswood:

Shannon Spotswood is a 25+ year industry veteran in financial services with an outstanding reputation built on leadership roles in professional management, investment banking, hedge fund management and business development. At RFG Advisory, Shannon oversees all aspects of RFG 2.0, a fully integrated platform designed for independent financial advisors and the implementation of strategic initiatives contributing to advisor success. Joining RFG Advisory in 2015, Shannon recognized the opportunity to combine her entrepreneurial experience with her passion to build an innovative, advisor-focused RIA of the future.

Ep. 46: How Availability & Support Make A Difference For Clients With Kelly Klingaman

Welcome to Game Film with Dr. J, where we share some of the most valuable lessons for advisors from real client experiences and business decisions.

In this episode, Dr. Jordan Hutchison, Vice President of Technology at RFG, welcomes Kelly Klingaman, CFP®, RLP®, founder of Kelly Klingaman Financial Planning, to an episode of Game Film with Dr. J where Kelly shares her journey into the industry and emphasizes the importance of being present for clients and addressing their emotional needs. She discusses specific examples of helping clients with car purchases and home buying decisions. Kelly also talks about the value of communication, personal interaction, and accountability in financial planning. She shares her experience of ignoring advice and staying true to her vision in creating her business.

Kelly discusses:

  • Her background and how she became an advisor
  • Why making herself available to her clients is so important to her
  • How being present for clients helps them handle stressful situations
  • The importance of communication and why she believes making a phone call is better than just sending an email
  • The use of technology in client communication
  • How she addresses the action intention gap and why she only offers ongoing planning services
  • Why creating a vision for clients and aligning money with values is so important
  • The worst piece of advice she has received in her career and how she handled it
  • And more


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About our Guest:

Kelly Klingaman, CFP®, RLP®, is a passionate financial advisor who empowers professional women and their families to navigate their financial journeys with confidence. With a degree in Finance from the University of Texas and a successful 12-year career at Dimensional Fund Advisors, Kelly’s expertise lies in utilizing financial science for long-term investing. In 2022, she founded KKFP to address the unique challenges faced by women in the corporate world, providing strategic advice on maximizing retirement savings, tax planning, equity compensation, and aligning financial decisions with personal values. Based in Austin, Texas, Kelly finds joy in family adventures, sand volleyball, paddleboarding, and sharing her famous chocolate chip cookie recipe.

Ep. 45: Just Show Up

In their element, at Dynamis Alliance HQ, Bobby White, RFG Advisory Founder and CEO, and Dom Raso, former Navy Seal Team 6 Warrior and Founder of Dynamis Alliance, sit down to talk about what it means to show up. This impactful episode is all about pushing through fear and how programming your mind can help you take the leap that you need to build value for yourself, your family, and for your business.

You won’t want to miss this episode.

Be sure to check our the entire series on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify and many more. Also, be sure to visit to download our exclusive “Become a Warrior Advisor” eBook and start your journey to get 1% better everyday.

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Ep. 44: Get 1% Better Every Day

One Year Later on from their prescient conversation on Captiva Island in 2020, Bobby White and Dom Raso reunite for an invigorating, energetic live event from the RFG Podcast studio.

What does it mean to crush everything? It means to get 1% better every day, to have the will to fight, and to persevere in the face of hardship, and to have your mindset on your goals. The challenges that have plagued everyone over the past year have been apparent, but Bobby and Dom take a different approach. Strap in for this incredibly transformative conversation to set the stage for making 2021 the best year yet.

Please reach out to your advisor or visit our website if you have any questions!

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Vestavia Hills, AL 35242

(205) 397-2450

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